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RLL and EFD for deprecated sources

Is there a reason we link to the revert-list discussions and edit-filter diffs that only serve to implement the consensus of the RfC, as if they were major discussions, and then slap a year-marker on it? It unnecessarily takes up a ton of space and seems to be a relic within the merge from Deprecates sources. I propose that we drop the text and have it show as part of the icons' hover text instead. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:19, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

These links are indeed a vestige of the old format of the Wikipedia:Deprecated sources page, and they do not need to remain in the list. This information can be tracked on a different page. — Newslinger talk 02:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Change colour for Generally reliable from green to blue

Because red and green are problem colours for some colour blind people, why not change the classification colour for the Generally reliable category from green to blue? Specifically, the current #ddddff shade of green to its triadic #ddddff shade of blue.

  •   current green shade, #ddddff
  •   my proposed blue shade, #ddddff

Aerra Carnicom, they/them, 21:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The red-yellow/amber-green scale is more or less universally understood because of international standards on driving signal lights and we are using them to relay useful information to the audience (essentally green means go, yellow means proceed with caution, and red means stop both on the road and on wiki). IMO such a change would decrease accessibility severely, the negative is going to outweigh the positive by a factor of 10 or 100. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with Horse Eye's Back. And besides, the proposed blue shade looks purple to me. It is not intuitive to think purple = generally reliable. Some1 (talk) 23:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand, accessibility for colorblind people is important. Maybe we could offer some kind of configurable toggle. Andre🚐 23:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There was talk of a colorblind specific skin for wikipedia but I think that tapered off after a bunch of colorblind users pointed out that they already used a diverse set of tools to compensate (browser extensions and that sort of thing) and it wouldn't be terribly helpful for them. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
 Request withdrawn, convincing counterarguments Aerra Carnicom, they/them, 22:29, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect WP:TVTROPES to the page Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not TV Tropes has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 January 19 § WP:TVTROPES until a consensus is reached. 67.209.130.107 (talk) 04:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sputnik

I get that Sputnik is a propaganda outlet, but in a dozen occasions in the past, I have cited their articles from the Armenian version mostly on non-political stuff (culture, art, architecture) and on presenting the Russian viewpoint on Armenia-related issues, which we can all agree Sputnik is reliable. Much of this content cannot be found elsewhere. Shouldn't we make some exceptions instead of a blanked ban? --Երևանցի talk 07:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

My impression is that Sputnik is not reliable at all for anything related to politics but they are okay elsewhere. Once I used it in an article about an obscure region in Caucasus for which no other source had information on whether people even lived there. It wasn't easy but eventually I managed to convince others to include it until better sources can be found. Alaexis¿question? 07:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think that this discussion needs to happen at WP:RSN. Alaexis¿question? 07:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per above comment and talk header: "This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Reliable sources/Perennial sources page." This topic is not about improving RSP, thus should be closed as off topic. CNC (talk) 22:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is Spotify reliable?

I have searched for it, but Spotify is not on this list. A question for moderators and experienced editors alike, is Spotify reliable for music-related pages? Xcrossing (talk) 20:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable for musical metadata? If it's there, it should be treated as a primary source, for all that entails. Remsense ‥  20:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, Spotify has never really been mentioned on Wikipedia before as an open and reliable source. Thanks! Xcrossing (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would guess the reason is that it's usually unnecessary, as there are other resources much more suited to being cited as a reference for whatever one would be able to cite Spotify for. I would strongly recommend looking for reliable secondary sources first. Remsense ‥  20:53, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This should be posted at WP:RSN. Below are the previous discussions on the source.
CNC (talk) 22:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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